{"id":1070,"date":"2004-04-07T23:57:58","date_gmt":"2004-04-07T23:57:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sunpig.com\/mt-entry-1070.html"},"modified":"2006-09-23T19:30:11","modified_gmt":"2006-09-23T19:30:11","slug":"backing-off-of-thunderbird","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/2004\/04\/07\/backing-off-of-thunderbird\/","title":{"rendered":"Backing off of Thunderbird"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been using Mozilla Thunderbird as my main email client for the last couple of weeks, but the experiment is coming to an end, and I&#8217;m moving back to Outlook again.  Two main reasons: spam, and unstable message filters.<\/p>\n<p>I have been using <a href=\"http:\/\/spambayes.sourceforge.net\/\">SpamBayes<\/a> for Outlook to filter spam for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sunpig.com\/martin\/archives\/2003\/05\/17\/spambayes\/\">almost a year now<\/a>, and it rocks.  After spending a couple of months double-checking its assessments of what is spam and what isn&#8217;t, I found that it was <em>never<\/em> issuing false positives, that is, categorizing good messages (&#8220;ham&#8221;) as junk.  If it encounters a message that it is unsure about, it puts it in a &#8220;Possible Spam&#8221; folder, which I check manually every couple of days.  Some messages that end up here are real, and some are junk.  As soon as I sort them appropriately, though, SpamBayes analyses their characteristics, and improves its odds of filing similar messages correctly in the future.  Very rarely, maybe once or twice a week, an actual piece of spam will make it past SpamBayes and get into my inbox.  A similar re-training process follows.<\/p>\n<p>Thunderbird stacks up poorly against SpamBayes in three ways:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It doesn&#8217;t have a &#8220;Possible Spam&#8221; middle ground.  You&#8217;ve got spam and you&#8217;ve got ham, but nothing inbetween to indicate uncertainty.<\/li>\n<li>It lacks a decent interface for you to properly &#8220;train&#8221; the filter about what is spam and what isn&#8217;t.<\/li>\n<li>It doesn&#8217;t indicate what the &#8220;spam rating&#8221; was for a given message.  SpamBayes allows you to see the spamminess score it has assigned to a given message, and it allows you to fine-tune the levels at which something is definitely ham or definitely spam(15% and 85% respectively, in my case).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Next up is the message filtering.  It works great most of the time, but every now and then I found that a message that had been processed by a filter (either one of my custom filters, or the built-in junk filter) would be marked as unread, and bounced into the Trash.  Huh?  What&#8217;s up with that?<\/p>\n<p>Bearing in mind that Thunderbird is still early beta software (0.5), these issues may well go away in a later release.  My overall impression of the program was very favourable, though:  it&#8217;s small, fast, nicely tweakable, and cross-platform.  I&#8217;ll be keeping my eye on it as it develops.  (That is, if I don&#8217;t get seduced by <a href=\"http:\/\/gmail.google.com\/\">GMail<\/a> in the meantime&#8230;.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been using Mozilla Thunderbird as my main email client for the last couple of weeks, but the experiment is coming to an end, and I&#8217;m moving back to Outlook again.  Two main reasons: spam, and unstable message filters.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1070","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-techie"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1070","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1070"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1070\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1070"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1070"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sunpig.com\/martin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1070"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}